Wah so exciting this time. Especially the Potong Pasir and Hougang fight. $80 to $100 million fucking dollar and plus send Lau Goh go there also cannot help them win Chiam and Low Thia Khiang. People cannot always be win by send Big Gun and give money. People want your heart not just your hand. Aljunied that side is good example of what the new Singaporean want. Ang Mo Kio result also another big sign.
But fuck lah, you just see lor, Aljunied sure kena chop chop like Cheng San one. Almost 44% the people there choose Worker Party. Fuck care you put how many PAP minister down there. 44% of Aljunied don't mind lose one Overseas Minister and two small minister. What that tell you? People not happy. People want more. People want MP that can do thing for them. They heng in Aljunied still got the woman MP like Cynthia Pua do her work or else die. I have many friend in Aljunied and they tell me they never see the General before. So have a big minister as my MP for fuck?
And Ang Mo Kio is the best! All the time walkover until WP send their Kamakazee team there. Six no-experience young punk fight the Small Dragon and can win until 33% of the vote there! Lim Boon Heng got say 85% win for Small Lee right? Hahahahahaha!!!! Where is your 85% now? 70 fucking percent also dun have! Still can say got mandate and got new young voter support. Just kena fuck backside by six virgin, support ki lan ah! AMK the 66.13% cannot even beat the average Singapore 66.6% score. Mandate ki lan ah!
I heard the Cheng San that side got help a bit. Cheng San people still never forgive PAP for 1997. You can chase away their Tang Liang Hong. You can swallow their Cheng San put inside Ang Mo Kio. But you cannot take away the toolan in their heart. This 33% is their present to you. This 33% is Cheng San middle finger give to PAP.
Friend just told me they arrest Gomez. Dunno true or not. Nabei election over liao so can start to bully people. You just see lah, your life will go back the same hell like before.
Actually the most big loser is not Opposition. They actually improve a lot, almost every place they fight the percent increase, PAP percent go down. Even Talk Cock Ling and his Self Destroy Party also can get 20%, quite good liao. No, the most big loser is Goh Choke Tong who kena send to become PAP Suicide Man. Send him go to Potong Pasir and Hougang and die. At least the Worker Party Suicide 6 go with nothing, come back with some result. Lau Goh go with his name and his million of carrot, come back with the million of carrot push up his kar chng by the people who support Chiam and Low. Somemore dunno how come this election, Lau Goh say so many stupid thing, like say bad thing about Chiam even make Chiam wife cry. Lau Lee and Small Lee lend him the knife by send him go to PP and Hougang, but Lau Goh ownself poke his own stomach. Small Lee not just fix opposition, also fix Lau Goh I think. Hahahahahaha!!!!
The other big loser is the cheebye Singapore newspaper like PAP Times and Mediacocksucker TV station like Channel News of PAP Only. After this election, no people want to believe you now. The internet show you all as Big Gahmen Running Dog. Maybe the auntie and the old man still will read you and believe you. But the new generation not just will read you less and less, and watch you less and less, they will never believe you fucker again.
Maybe Lau Goh can start new party, the Last-Time PAP party! Hahahahahaha!!!
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take alook at his blog.. haha.. the comments.. maturity yes he has.. but priority to place things? haha his own face and need to win among all his subjects.. or rather.. maturity.. hmm i dun think he has any of them le.. haha still using politics to say ppl? think about yourself boy.. u think whatever u think and say is so right? angry with us? or angry with yourself for not having done well? your priority for things was put wrongly.. even a child will know which comes first.. face or studies.. i guess u would gladly sacrifice your studies for these virtual face that you are gaining.. no need to use those things u have read in books to say ppl.. just to show ppl how mature u are about politics.. how u have read so much and now u know so much about SG the world and experience stuff.. cause to me now u are nothing but a big show off..
Hello Mr STARLANDLIU,
I am Oprah Winfrey and I would like to invite you to my show. You have quickly become the Internet's top 20 most repulsive character. Would you care to attend my show and let people know who you are? You will be famous and your beloved PAP will have an easier time accepting a celebrity such as yourself.
Regards,
O.W.
starlandliu (what a fucking ah beng name) has shut down his blog. because i called him a racist (which he is. he said that the "brown skins" malays should be beaten up by the police because they create trouble). he said all that racist shit and then deleted the post. think his readers are stupid. what a fucking asswipe. i also told him that his grammar and spelling is soooo bad that he can only be the janitor of AJC (his dream school) and that he can only DREAM of entering NUS. so starlandliu, until you improve yr grammar and spelling, and go back to primary 1, then you can start talking about big people issues like politics. for now, shut the hell up. you are a lily-livered pussy! what a cock! support pap? those very same people you support are gonna haul your ass to courts for sedition you racists mofo! no brains, bad english, racist - this is what your treasured education system produces issit?? what a jackass. for now, starlandre.blogspot.com, is a free domain. cos the previous stinking piece of shit has vacated the place.
i think those opposition supporter jealous abt Starlandliu's talent. do you really need so many people to challenge him? that's the stupidity of a blind opposition suppporter! wake up and keep moving on rather than keep going through the GE. a lost is a lost and a win is a win, what to debate! no wonder you have no time upgrading yourself by spending all necessary time on this stuffs and blame all this to govt!
starlandliu: you should go brush up your english.
all: why argue with 17yr old? let him concentrate on his o-levels first, jc/poly then national service. let him complete his uni, work a few years and then talk to him again. =)
Reading your blogs is really an eye opening and can learn a lots from those good writers who posted their comments. The arguement was superb. i like the way Skye Bleu answer the ten questions posted by Starlandliu, great job. Anyway a good government is a goverment that take good care of its people, they in-charge of the people's money. No one government bring their own wealth to form the government. It is always the people cooperate with a good government to bring prosperity. To ensure staying as a good government there must be genuine observance and check in place and that is the opposition role. Our ruling party style is that the leader can tell they members to shut up but they can't tell the oppersition to shut up, that's why we need opposition. This is the rule of balance apply to nature.
What can I say, Standardliu's thinking is very much an example of all that has gone wrong in Siangpore. I remember when I was his age too and I used to think like him. Don't get me wrong, I love my country but it is also wrong to turn a blind eye to things that are wrong in the name of patriotism. At 17 it's easy to be idealistic and say that we should sacrifice for the sake of our nation. After all, who are we to complain about what the PAP has given us all these years right? Well wrong. Someone who loves his country should be willing to speak up when he sees something is going wrong. Just because we are no longer a third-world country does not mean all is well. We cannot measure ourselves on such simple standards simply because the world changes. The world will not wait for you and if your mind is so stuck in the past, you will not be work towards the best possible future.
I do not know Rockson except through reading his blog, but I must say what he writes strikes a chord with me. If you focus on his use of vulgarities and singlish, you are missing the real message behind what he is saying, and it is a very important message. It has reached a stage where we cannot just depend on the PAP's past reputation to lead us through the next step. Statistics wise, Sky Bleu has probably made as good an argument as I ever could so all respect to him.
I don't know if you will read this Standardliu, but all I can say is 'wake up'. It's good you have your point of view and a set a principles you abide by. But it is also good to take in all points of view. I can tell you that the hardest hit by the reality of the world will be people like you, who I can very much identify with.
After going through NS, the education system, and from observing people around me, you will know that the Government does not give two-hoots about how patriotic you are. If you fail anywhere along the way, be it in education or whatever, there is no compassion. You will be hung out to dry. It's easy to say 'suck it up', but when you go through it, it suddenly becomes a much heavier burden. Just because we can 'survive' it or just because it's a 'dog-eat-dog' world does not mean that it is right or that we should keep quiet about it. The comment about Lim Bo Seng was harsh, and definitely not made by someone who has army experience. To put it bluntly, NS (at least in my time) is two and a half years of THANKLESS time wasted. Yes wasted. Why? Because if you take out the point that you're doing a service to your country, the fact of the matter is that it puts you at least 2 years behind all your peers, and here I mean international peers. Having studied overseas, I know what a big disadvantage it is, especially if you're going back to work in Singapore where a person's professional shelf-life is so short. To top it off, what recognition do we get for our service? Do those NS pay increases affect those who have already ORDed? Lim Bo Seng is a war hero and all respect to him, but who gives all those people who have also given their time to the country their fair bit of recognition. If you've really read the classics, then you'll understand that loyalty is something that involves reciprocation. A gentleman has an onus of finding himself a worthy master before giving his complete loyalty.
If you are one of those elites born with a silver spoon in your mouth, then fair enough... you'll probably never experience what most Singaporeans go through. But if not, I hope that your process of 'experiencing' the harsh realities of life in Singapore will not be as hard as some have had.
if u guys remember, there was a coloured printed copy of the cctv on gomez case. the camera was in the election department...a government building but the time and date shown on the image was back dated sometime in 2005. what does that say?
can this be evidential proof to be used in court? can say sorry, we never adjust the time and date accordingly?
to me, when i read and saw that in the st, i think it was the most embarrassing thing...how would the world look at us?
we are well known in the world for the being one of the safest country in the world...based on the population and size of our country and if the country is has high crime rate, the government ought to be shot.
thus does this equate to a bigger pay check by the politicans for such a small dot in the world country as compared to the leaders of the big continents.
there's abundance of $$$ flowing within out country but never in our hands, no matter how hard we work...nkf holds a big bulk of it!
to standardliu,
my, u can really be argumentative and can really write well, i m impressed. however, i am concerned whether you will pass your cambridge o level english paper...for there were so many grammatical mistakes.
work hard in that area, otherwise it'll be difficult to get a job in singapore.
To train a soldier effectively for war, can never do it with the time frame of two years. Our NS was meant to control those youngs in the old days where many of them did not have the chance to complete middle or higher education, they became problem to the government and society. Now it has become something like a tool for our government, and a way to deter the youngs going oversea to study and stay put there. Our government knows that many people are not happy with certain policy but neither the government to let you have your free ways.
If the date and time of the picture in the Gomes's incidence was some mistakes, that clearly explain why he was off the hook. How lucky is Gomes !
rockson, faster blog leh
Rockson, next time u can be MP of Geylang. Can choing everyday
Down with PAP!!! Purposely make teenagers life damn stressful and hectic so that these idiots will not oppose them.PAP is full of old crafty bitches and arrogant BASTARDS.
Singapore has no future. Better migrate
just leave starlandliu alone. he needs to allocate more time to work on his english. if he screw up his o-level english, how to join PAP? how to get a "world-class" job next time? LOL.
Somebody said we may get corrupt gov if pap is no longer the ruling party one day.
I think I've the solution that can be applied to the past, present & future - Extradition Treaty with every nation on earth for political corruption but judgement by some form of independent parties.
History had shown that absolute power corrupts in whatever manner they are presented to the people
Somebody also quoted these words for thought- "the graveyards of the world are filled with indispensable people"....therefore proper systems, rules & regulations are more important than trying to get the perfect candidates.
As for who should rule..."the voters", the ruling party must remember the voters are the one who ultimately decide.
Lesson learned - To make them realise who is their creator, we must "manage" them properly.
Our system is difficult to understand; Our country import talent from other country, the reason said is shortage of our own. In today forum, you would notice so many letters written to tell Mindef allow deferment of NS for one of our very talented 17 years old musician to go oversea under special scholarship. What a cock up system, our leaders said we need and want our own talented people but the system work otherwise. Mindef do not have intelligent people to understand that a deferment with conditions for the boy to come back and serve NS should be granted and is sure the right thing to do. If the boy is from a poor family and few people notice his talent, not many people write to support the deferment, would this be a waste. Anyway we always believe we are world class.
alright, i'm sick of hearing this star-lan-diu bashing.
Although His comments are really critical and harsh, he's just a 17 year old doing his high school cert.
Very idealistic and nationalistic, carrying and worshipping the PAP's backside, looking down on poor people and the unfortunate.
Let him be whatever he wants because his 17 and legally, he's someone's else bitch, only his mum can scold and smack him for sing songing and pak chiu cheng :P
Once he's 18, in singapore it is 21, he is his own bitch, he'll realise, there is much more to life than just getting straight As, worshipping and carrying the PAP's backside, earning 1 million dollar peanuts and defending the establishment.
things that matter in the end are non materialistic,like
freedom, integrity, trust, self-worth, dignity, cultural rights, political and social space.
You ROCK! FUCK PAP!!!
yeah!!! fuck PAP!!!!
dear standardliu,
i m entering into my 40s...so far so good for me for i m self-sufficient, need not rely on the government for anything. however sadly to say, my profession makes confront with the harsh reality of live everyday, especially the low income group.
due to the educational background, they are not able to digest, analyse like we do...in fact they dun have the time and energy to do so as they would worry when will the power supply be cut off.
they want to sell their house to cash out some $$$ for emergencies since their wives or children need medical attention, but where will they reside, since they can't make the next purchase due to their income. there were so many changes in hdb policies which deter these pple from selling and buying at the same time...they got stuck with the situation.
i know many of these pple approached the mps to appeal for lower instalment payments, which yes the hdb allowed, but that would solve the issues at all. they still can't find a job that could sustain the livlihood and worst off...the biggest and wealthiest charity organisation, deprived them of their real needs.
the value of hdb had increased tremendously till it blasted in 97/98. however, the value of new hdb flats were not any cheaper, thus forcing the owners to sell their hdb flats at a higher price in order not to incur any losses.
during that period of 98/99/00, ask all those who purchased their flats thru hdb directly, they paid much more than those who bought in 2001/2002/2003. why???
when u make a loss over hdb purchase, the losses incurred will be cpf monies...how can pple retired then, if retirement funds was the concern of the govt?
over all these comments made here, i can really feel the unhappiness abt the govt. not becos they r inefficient, but the policies for addressing the real issues was never taken into serious considerations.
i also know many pple, frens and clients who come from all over the world come here to reside, get their pr or some even got their citizenship. they r here to make $$$ cos they can get more from here compared to their countries, especially in terms of currency exchange. however, almost 98% of them, i know, would not choose to retire here....y?
in fact, i would too..with given opportunity, i would rather leave and come back once a while for my favourite roti prata, char kway teow and nasi lemak.
People!!!!!!!!!!!!
starlandliu.blogspot.com or starlandliu as he is known by that alias is an PRODUCT of the Singapore Education System.
It is not his fault, the way he is presenting himself in the blogosphere world. He recites facts from textbook, reads national affairs. He does have references to reliable and accurate accounts of national and political affairs but they are only in one paradigm.
Singapore teaches the ROTE method of learning. That is regurgitating facts rather than use lateral thinking and think for yourself solutions. The education system
prevents and inhibits student to
ask questions, why? scared of losing
and getting it wrong. But getting
something wrong and learning it from
it is part of the learning process.
Although Singapore is moving towards the western model of education. The majority of high school graduates still can't grasp with the THINK OUT OF THE BOX concept until they go overseas like Australia, United States, United Kingdom, Canada.
These people will always try and refer to textbook case scenarios and never try anything that is unproven.
Singapore uses a high stake education system. If u succeed, winners take all, If u fail along the way, like don't make it to local Uni, then government dun give a fuck, it is ur problem. Then ur career and livelihood goes downhill unless u manage to break free from the strict elitest system.
That way, only a small pool of people can make it to uni, making the degree valuable. If everyone can have second chance, then singapore government will be forced to lower standards, degree worth less and people whinge about being jobless graduates.
Western countries like Australia is moving towards an elite system like Singapore. Cut funding to uni and allow private places to supplant govt places.
UK is moving in the opposite direction, Tony Blair wants everyone to have a uni degree, some people oppose say it devalues the degree.
The irritating kid is back and giving many cock-up comments about his idealistic singapore. Can we castrate him and dry his foreskin out in the sun? when it is dehydrated, we blend it to powder! wahahaha...
http://starlandliu.blogspot.com/
Singapore's education system is so fucked up until cannot fuck already , yet the botak minister still want to make the lives of teachers nd students more stressful. STARLANDLIU, if u are feeling stressfulbcos of sch, blame GAHMEN.
3 hours more to CHAMPIONS LEAGUE final
starlandliu i think you need to move on.. surely you are not that free to spend so much time replying to blogs.. how on earth are you going to get into a JC and I really think your advice to low income earners is quite ridiculous.. you probably are not aware of the cost of living.. you should perhaps reserve your comments to when you grow up, which does not look likely to happen soon, and then perhaps you can appreciate the difficulty the man on the street faces. this is not meant to be unkind. just an opinion.
sigh. A hates B. B maybe hates A. and yet A reads B's blog n make all the comments. If A hates B's blog, why bother to read? If I am A, I cant be bothered. Envy or Jealous? Or it's a way of gaining publicity for own good? Negative publicity helps sometimes like Gomez. And PAP made wrong publicity move - ended up it's WP's benefit. I hate "fights".
I agree with some of the people's comments. How much does a teenager knows when still living off his parents? Sometimes, it's all facade man!I used to think things like him though i am anti-govt.. but reality bites. Idealism doesn't exist. The current system we have in this country crashed our ideals sometimes. People dun study for knowledge but to get a F**King paper.It's a stupid bloody paper chasing society.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/business/smutocracy-is-a-facade-for-democracy/2006/05/16/1147545327046.html
Rockson,
Enuf of election thingy. Blog other stuff plzzzzzzz.
hey dude,
this is from one bloody angmo laughing at us! sigh!
*To be sung to the tune of Hotel California ... dedicated to all
Singaporeans *
**
*HOTEL SINGAPURA *
**
*On the Pan-Island expressway
Cool wind in my hair
Warm smell of kopi-o
Rising up through the air
Up ahead in Aljunied
I saw a shimmering light
My head grew heavy and my sight grew dim
I had to stop for the night
There she stood in the doorway
I heard the mission bell
And I was thinking to myself
This could be Heaven or this could be Hell
Then she lit up her handphone
And she showed me the way
There were voices down the corridor
I thought I heard them say
Welcome to the Hotel Singapura
Such a lovely place
For the 666
Plenty of room at the Hotel Singapura
Any time of year
RC volunteers
Her mind is PAP twisted
She's got the upgrading
She's got a lot of pretty, pretty boys
They're all geldings
How they dance in the courtyard
Sweet summer sweat
Some dance to fix you good
Some dance to buy your vote
So I called up the PAP
Please gimme transparency
He said
We haven't had that spirit here since 1965
And still those voices are calling from far away
Wake you up in the middle of the night
Just to hear them say
Welcome to the Hotel Singapura
Such a lovely place
Such a lovely face
They're livin' it up at the Hotel Singapura
What a nice surprise
Bring your alibis
Cameras on the ceiling
Civil servants on ice
And she said
We are all just prisoners here
Of our own device
And in the master's chambers
They gathered for the feast
They stab it with their steely knives
But they just can't kill the beast
Last thing I remember
I was running for the door
I had to find the passage back
To Sweden, where I was before
Relax, said the poodleman
We are programmed to fix you
You can hammer all you want
But you can never leave *
**
Pardon for my grammatical mistakes.
I am not siding with PAP nor opposition.
I dislike PAP about its education system which focusing too much on academic results than on civil moral values. This is what our education system fails to teaches a strong citizens with matured thinking. Need a mass changes on that.
Dominating and full authoritarian has its positive side. Do look more on its good than comdemned its bad side.
About many of you who blamed PAP for giving you low salary, didn't upgrade your old flat, put an high tax on you(Aussie is more higher) or using ERP to "steal" your money,
well, I felt that most of your opinions were just self centred.
The suggestions of yours, in my opinion, will completely destroy and cripple Singapore. As a Singaporean, it is important to FIRST spared a thought for the country and then SECOND to yourself.
Where has our One People One Nation One Singapore goes? Everyone just care about themselves, their salaries, their lives, their houses, their money, etc but really I can't found any political suggestions from you all except you mentioned "Let more opposition parties into Parliament" which is a healthy tips out.
Once again, always remember this: "Country above self"
If you really unhappy with PAP, well, be patient abit, give them 5 more years and see what happens in 2011 election.
fucku starlandliu. what do you know. you just come out from ur mother's ***** and you want come talk cock here. cheebye, grow first then come.
Spilling vulgarities is a bad portrait of Singapore. Foreigners are watching, keep your language clean!
starlandliu, australian taxation is some of the world's most complex. i suggest u try to understand how it work b4 commenting that its "high".
after-tax purchasing power is what counts in the end. alternatively, u can have "low" tax but jack up the real estate prices. its just indirect form of taxation.
suggest u read less straitstimes, asia1 or CNA. spewing out garbage like "other countries' tax r high" without understanding how it works makes u look like a country bumpkin. bumpkin that got brainwashed by PAP.
You can address me and said "Australian is lower because...."
No need to said "bumpkin"
And instead of picking the tax point, you should also point out other concerns which is more important.
In fact about the tax, they are still higher because you have to give service tips. There is no doubt that Aussie people scolded us and Japanese for no giving them tips.
There taxes + money tips is already much more higher that ours.
why u lil !!!!!!!!!! starlandiu, i admire ur blind sense of faith. If i were LKY, i will hire u to be my asswipe. U could be the best political scapegoat in history. U know, he would even hire u as chee soon juan the 2nd. A spy and walking time bomb. hahahahah
vely sick of this shitlandliu debate leh.... Rockson, blog leh, miss you liao
"If you really unhappy with PAP, well, be patient abit, give them 5 more years and see what happens in 2011 election."
be patient.... try telling that to someone like my father who has been voting for the past 40 years.
You're seeing things from your perspective, but try to see it from others. Sacrifice for the country is good and all, very noble in fact, but 'blind sacrifice' is just stupid. It is important to distinguish one thing, and it is that it is the people who make up the country, not the any one political party. If the people are not happy, they have more than enough reason to be concerned.
starlandliu,
u r going to do very badly in ur essays and assignments if u do go to university. u need to backup ur arguements with facts and show u've done more researched. approaching things from all angles.
here r the taxation rates in australia:
http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/content.asp?doc=/content/12333.htm
ur homework is to gather the starting salary of graduates such as urself across major industries.
then use the tax calculator to figure out how much u have left after paying tax:
http://calculators.ato.gov.au/scripts/ASP/SimpleTaxCalc/main.asp
next research on housing and car prices in key cities such as sydney, melbourne, brisbane and perth.
u can then create a table and compare ur after-tax purchasing power between australia and singapore (pls use ratio in this excercise). it is simple mathematics, just use the 4 basic operations: plus, minus, divide, multiplication.
once u have the facts and figures, then u craft ur essays and arguements. it will help u in ur university work, should u choose to further ur studies.
u can also check out this 18 yr old's blog. her thought process is sound and she always backs up her point of view.
all the best in ur studies.
"u can also check out this 18 yr old's blog. her thought process is sound and she always backs up her point of view."
sorry, forgot to give u the link.
http://i-speak.blogdrive.com/
her style of writing is clearly "cleaner" than rockson's. u have to be able to cut through rockson's sense of humour, try to understand the message rockson is trying to send through. ditto for talkingcock.com
I will try to figure the taxation.
But first thing first, let's give the government 5 more years and analyse their final performance from 2006 - 2011.
Well, I felt that all of you, those who wrote alot of bad PAP government articles, is wasting your time here.
If you so wanting to give your views, sent them directly to Lee Hsien Loong.
Here is his Prime Minster Office Email:
pmo_hq@pmo.gov.sg
Recently, my white MP,
Knock on my door, and very kek ki..
Say 'I've worked so hard, so vote for me', 'Or rubbish won't be
cleared, in your vicinty'..
I said 'Dear MP of my GRC',
'Dun remember u, so please pardon me'..
'I only saw you on TV',
'Dozing off and jiak liao bee'..
Last GE I voted for thee,
2% up in GST..
Cut CPF and up utility,
Are still very clear in my memory..
5 years later, then you come to me,
Fresh from your slumber of ivory..
Say that only, you can help me,
Escape from a life of poverty..
Just take a drive on CTE,
Count the number, of all the gantries..
Or squeeze a ride on the MRT,
That has not been cleared for ye..
My life since the last GE,
Has been downhill though I voted PAP..
If I vote the same for your sleeping spree, I can expect the same
misery..
So this time round, I vote for somebody, Who will kachiao you, to
productivity..
Forms fill wrong, no big deal to me,
If there's someone to speak up for ah bee..
So my dear MP of GRC,
If life no improve, vote u cho simi?
starlandliu,
work out the australian taxation after your exams. here are some other considerations you need to consider. retirement pension, unemployment benefits and medicare.
australian unemployment benefits:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrelink
australian medicare:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_(Australia)
local propaganda (PAP's blog - asia1, cna) might say: immigrate whatfor? high tax....yada..yada. But this is to discourage you from exploring more options.
also, despite unemployment benefits, most people still prefer to work. a person with a healthy positive attitude might feel embarassed to be seen as a regular at the unemployment office. the office is there in case you lose your job. in case it takes longer than expected for you to find a new job, at least the unemployment benefits is there to tide you and your family over.
just study hard for now. u can go places and u will go higher than u might think. gdluck starlandliu.
Thank you for your kind information.
I heard of this scheme to help low income groups:
ComCare
($600 million endowment fund)
WORKFARE
($1 billion package)
ADDITIONAL HOUSING GRANT
($20k grant)
PROGRESS PACKAGE
($2.6 billion package)
Source: http://www.youngpap.org.sg/
Basically, starlandliu is a good boy, though naive. Please do not scold him, just educate him.
Alternatively, leave him alone.
StarLandLiu, ComCare & other benefits were brought up only during an election. You cannot compare these to the unemployment benefits in western countries. Theirs have been in place for a long time. If you feel that you cannot relate to most of the posters here because of age gap then go to Gayle Goh's blog. She is probably 17 or 18 years old. http://i-speak.blogdrive.com/:
This letter was published in The Straits Times on Wed, 26 Jan 2005 entitled "Use vote to make life better for all".
22 January 2005
I refer to the article by Zuraidah Ibrahim entitled "Showing Govt's heart is no bad thing" in ST Jan 22, 2005.
Therein, she came to the conclusion that the government had "pulled the rug" from under the Workers' Party's feet on Jan 20 by unveiling a billion dollar package to help the older workers, the elderly and the jobless.
I would like to thank Zuraidah for acknowledging that the Workers' Party has consistently highlighted the plight of the poor and financially-strapped in our society and advocated for change of government policy in this area.
By coming up with the ComCare fund, the PAP has acknowledged that it has not been doing enough and that there are significant numbers who are unable to cope within the existing system.
The details of the implementation of ComCare, and how efficacious it will be in addressing the needs of the poor and the fall-out from economic restructuring, remain to be seen.
As a government, the PAP has an obligation to respond to the needs of the people, the voters.
What prompted me to respond is Zuraidah's speculation that somehow the Workers' Party would feel eclipsed at the next General Elections, since the PAP government has shown signs that it could "become more like the government Mr Low (Thia Khiang, WP Secretary-General) and the opposition would want it to be".
The Workers' Party is pro-Singapore and pro-Singaporeans.
If our existence and work has the effect of making the PAP government improve the lives of Singaporeans, we would have done our national service.
We do not find any morbid pleasure in seeing fellow Singaporeans continue to suffer under harsh policies so as to make political capital out of it.
How responsive the PAP would be to the electorate if there were no elections to fight is an interesting question.
The challenge facing Singapore in the democratisation process is how far the electorate recognises the value of holding the PAP to account through the ballot box.
Few Singaporeans would want to abolish the right to vote at a General Election, which means that Singaporeans must be prepared to join or support opposition parties, or risk their extinction in this difficult political environment.
The fundamental difference between those who believe in inter-party politics and those who want a one-party state is that the former do not wish to be held hostage to the Whip of one party, who will, in the final analysis, ensure that everyone falls into line.
Even though the PAP seems to be a dominant force in Singapore politics, Singaporeans should never under-estimate their own political power in using the vote to pressurise the government to review its policies so as to make life in Singapore better for all.
If the Workers' Party empowers the people in this way, our political participation would be time and effort well spent, and in no way "bitter-sweet".
Yours faithfully,
Sylvia Lim (Ms)
Chairman
The Workers' Party
Can starboy be educated? Some people are meant to crash into a wall no matter how you try to help. Nature is fair: Although the size of their brain has been compromised, they tend to have uber thick skulls. They also tend to be happy and contented. The bliss of ignorance. Sigh.
Starlandiu, you must understand that you have not faced with the full brunt of policies that have affected so many others under the dominant party. Oppositions are not 'troublemakers' as what they might have been made out to be by the media's coverage of the pap. Comments such as time bombs and dangerous manifesto planning and etc etc as what the straits times happily print out are bad publicity. It makes people agree blindly. Thus my advice to you to read up other sources of media. Think carefully, out of the comments you have read in this blog, why do people express their frustrations if the ruling party has at least met a certain level of service. Are thay that bo liao to just kao peh for fun? I work in the service line and out of all the people that I have met, many are very disgruntled with not the pap, but their policies. However when it comes to voting, the elder ones are usually worried to vote for opposition as they fear of being found out. Those who voted for the pap doesnt necessarily mean they are happy. They may be those who are ignorant about minor politics and since the pap's logo looks damn familiar, they vote for it. The opposition are the people that should be hailed as heroes as they have put a lot on the line by going against the ruling party. They have the guts to stand up for unhappy singaporeans. And i assure you that should anyone of them accidentally make an unfortunate mistake, the media is as sure to splash it all over the front page giving it a few days coverage. WIth the ruling party, it's a different ball game. By the way, you claim to come from a lower income group yet you have an amazing cam corder and laptop. Correct me if I am wrong but can a genuinely low income earner man even afford a trip to pizza hut? I wonder...
I bought that camcorder and laptop after saving for so long, 7 years in total.
I would suggest a good political source to read.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore_general_election%2C_2006
Starlandliu, like the James Gomez issue, has accidentedly or intentionally diverted our focus.
Why not forget about this "ignorant" boy.
wikipedia good political source? what a fuckin stupid jackass. eh starlandliu, really, honestly forget about uni or jc. you're really too clueless... and what the heck were you trying to say all this while?? what? was that english you were speaking??
come on he is only 17 or 18 yrs old. he is not Gayle Goh.
http://i-speak.blogdrive.com/
You see starlandiu, a really 'lower income' group cannot afford to spend 7 years savings fully or even partial of it into these luxury goods. Can a man with a family of 2, sole bread winner afford to spend 10 years of his hard earned savings on a family holiday? Noble it may be, to try and bring his family joy in travels, it simply cannot be done. You on the other hand can afford to put your savings into some luxury goods. It isn't a need, u should know that right? More of a want. Basic economics.
I try not to inflamed some of you but it just pissed me off!
>>Starlandliu, like the James Gomez issue, has accidentedly or intentionally diverted our focus.
--I felt you youself had changed your focus. If you disargree with my views, either you ignore or speak against my views with polite manner. Slandering down there will you more ignorant, go to those high class places and behaved this way and see what kind of reaction you will get.
>>wikipedia good political source? what a fuckin stupid jackass. eh starlandliu, really, honestly forget about uni or jc. you're really too clueless... and what the heck were you trying to say all this while?? what? was that english you were speaking??
--Vulgarities English of yours was just as bad as broken English, you failed to grasp that. And, Wiki is a online dictionary for you to read which I fear that you did not even bother to read the source given earlier.
>>For haiz...
--Lower low income group cannot afford even handphones. However, for higher income group or mid income group does have the financial capability to buy more expensive goods such as computers and cameras.
>>For the rest.
--Please, once again, I say I am not siding with PAP. I felt that what real maturity is, look things on both side of the person.
You can't judged PAP as poor party just because there are negative sides. Try looking on its positive side and sprayed your conclusions.
Unless they are totally negatived.
As usual, you can't tell who is right and wrong until the day you become government yourself or join political parties.
Judging bad about government, the law, and the politics as an apolitical person and non-politician is equally absurb.
For example, pointing fingers at the PAP for corruption without knowing that you just received your workfare bonus cum Progress Package. If they corrupted, your PP + WFB will be confiscated.
Correction:
Higher LOW income group.
Not higher income group.
you people out there just know how to comdemn PAP. If not for them, do u think u can live comfortable condition, peaceful night when u sleep, no riots, first class education for u & your kids, world class medical care, world class port & airport & many things. Depend on the Opposition, we will go back to third world country. They can give suggestion that does not work.
I agree that cost of living is up but the government is trying their best to contain them. Check with your friends from other countries, do their government give them money, maybe it is there as an election or not.. my foot.. understand...
Those people out there, please wake up your ideas.. you have to work hand in hand with the government to ensure that our future is good.
starlandliu, get lost. i thot u said sometime ago that THAT was ur last post? i was happy for awhile. u havent gain any experience in the real world. so stop making ur idealistic comments.
i rather sylvia lim post more n u less. she speaks with substance. my heroine :-P
Wiki was never a dictionary ... dumb..
Did you gain exprience from the political world as well? Stop mixing politics to your petty opinion.
I thought that was my last comment but you pissed me off.
Adults, stand only in their shoes but not for the country. The word of "Country above self", unfortunately failed to stamp into young generation mind concepts.
Selfish, unloyalty and ungrateful, is the reason behind a weak civil society.
Not PAP die, Singapore may die and if Singapore die, you die.
Country gone, people will suffer, do shot that into your mind.
Learn some moral values and before you dare even called youself an adult.
At least they PAP protected us from riots, civil wars and terrorist threats which gives you a safetly place to live.
Learn to appreciate life in Singapore.
Last but not least, those people who thinks that I am inmature - I do feel the same way for you too.
in conclusion, starlandliu is trying to prove to us tat he is very noble and not self-centred cos he always claim tat one should not think for himself only.... then let me ask him how to think for others when one cant even help himself???? if only our Mps were to be so noble, their salaries wont be so high liao.... maybe starlandliu, u be the 1st volunteerily unpaid MPs in the future!!! then i call u lao peh ah....
starlandliu,
dun tok to me abt moral values and loyalty in this century lah!!!! how much do they worth now???? maybe u can many good pple during ur grandparents time but not now.... reality is cruel and u tell me "country above self"???? u directing those patriots drama now izzit???if spore having war or riots now, who r the ones who r defending???? obviously not the MPs rite..... they r like the generals, we r like the soldiers always under them waiting for their orders, so u tell me ultimately, who will sacrifice 1st??? the more u debate, the more pple detest u.... wat for right??? u cant brainwash us just like we cant brainwash u
Hey starlandiu, since Miss Sylvia Lim gladly gave a reply directing solely at you, why don't you share with her your opinions? I suppose she will be the best person to discuss with since she had a taste of the political pie and is now a ncmp. Miss Lim, if you will....
WHat do you think guys and gals out there?
lockson, no update??
starlandliu, u should really be ashamed by how u think and the way u write. look at gayle goh:
she is only 17-18 yrs old.
she can contribute to singapore a lot more than u.
u r nothing but a brainless cheerleader for PAP.
first starlandliu came out with high australian taxes as an argument. a forum member showed him the .gov websites to prove that starlandliu's idea is flawed and is nothing but PAP propaganda.
undaunted, starlandliu next tried the ComCare play. another forum member countered with facts and figures and starlandliu was silenced.
starlandliu, r u a parrot that can only mouth PAP's propaganda? is your brain the size of a parrot's?
consider two 17-18 yrs old and their thought process:
1) Gayle Goh
http://i-speak.blogdrive.com/
2) StarLandLiu
http://starlandliu.blogspot.com/
I'm from Malaysia and cannot write a good English. But after reading this Singaporeans' comments towards Starliu and PAP, I must make some opinions.
Wah liew leh...
U think yourself as very matured than Starliu si poh? Well, I think u r much more childish and stupid than him. Nabei...
He is trying to make sense of Loyalty and Die for Singapore, so as to promote strong civil concepts which u guys lack of, but u said "Oh, those MP dun wan to protect Singapore, so I also dun wan to protect"?
Childish thinking liao...
At least Starliu participated actively in political discussion at age of 17, where are u during his age? Still dreaming or playing sex?
I read about Gayle Goh, she does make some sense but she fails appreciate the govt's efforts and look deep into politics. For starlandliu, his view may not as powerful as Gayle Goh but he is loyalty towards his country and shows interests in political affairs. He will be the one who is protecting your homeland! Unlike u all, took things for granted.
I felt M'sians r more loyalty to our M'sia, unlike u S'poreans, third world attitude! Shame lah!
Go cry your lim peh for not protecting his graveyard in Singapore!
Bunch of ill-S'poreans...
Cheebye...
Hey, Starliu, dun bother them anymore, focus in your studies.
These creeks who arroganted themselves will amount to failures.
KNNCCB!!
dear malaysian friend, judging by your english and maturity, i don't think u will ever understand gayle goh's blog.
and do us a favour and remain in malaysia. ty.
Judging on your comments, u xiao ren annoymous dun seems to appreciate your life in S'pore.
Come on, in M'sia, life is nt fucking peaceful. U sleep at gong night, robberies will rob u at gong night, you go to school, the lan cheow benefits will go to the Malays. U work outside, the Ka-ni-na Malays will steal your job.
There u are in Singapore, life is so safety, and multi racial(u think M'sia got multi racial? PUI!)what else u still wan?
Best education in Asia, world class PSA and Changi Airport in the world, best transport in Asia, high standard of living, new cars, new handphones, new computers and even aircon! Oh, I getting jealous about your SG success, but u SG ppl dun feel proud(shame!).
PS: Dun took cheebye life for granted. U have such a strong gang of govt and yet u ppl still asked for more.
U think u can get such a living standard at M'sia? Cambodia? China? Vietnam? Indonesia? U want your office job or be a bus driver like lim peh whose salary is 10x lower than yours.
This was wat Starliu was trying to explained his stance of "Learn to appreaciate your SG life" wasn't it?
And ps lah, u got no strength to K your name in is it?
Simi Lan Cheow! Be a man real SG man lah!
And ps do lim peh a favour, get off your junky back and go see cambodia and african poor ppl before u dare even say SG life is sux!
hear this, starlandliu said we must learn to have moral values then can call ourselves adults!!!!! so ppl who go geylang to find pros r not adults since they have no morals... wahahahaha... n did some of u say he is mature??? OMG tsk tsk
ask those go geylang carry birthcerts not ICs hahaha
TO HELL, STARLANDLIU, TO HELL!!! BURN BURN BURN
After reading so many of his comments, I find that Starlandliu is naive but arguementative. He knows the facts, but he does not realise that he does not know the FULL facts. He knows the stories, but he does not realise that he does not know THE OTHER SIDE of the stories. After all, he is just a student, we can't expect too much of him.
My advice to Starlandliu: Half-knowledge is very dangerous!
starlandliu, maturity comes with age...u think u r quite there but for those we r ahead of u, we know u a CMI case.
shut up n grow up 1st. talk to us after 10-15 yrs later. when u have ur own family, struggling with loans, job stress, kids, parents' medical bills... but for now SHUT UP!!
U simi lan annoymous still picking him?
Haha! Instead of answering his direct questions, u only know how to said "u are inmature, u r ignorant, u r not adult yet, etc", ps lah, this has been repeated manytimes, not tired of it?
He is young but he knows what is called "answering direct questions", have u?
U think only your "stress", "low paid", "no baby subsidies", etc, are killing u? Well, go to very poor countries and u will know how fortunate u r.
Lim Peh thinks that u guys and gals only care for yourself.
If u whined so much, then lim peh, the poor bus driver would have whined until my poor graveyard liao!
So what did idiots said to Starliu..."u become adult first before u talked cock here"
Hahaha, PS LAH!!!
Hey, Lim Peh's humble advice is:
Be a SG govt yourself FIRST before you talk rot towards Starliu!
SHUT UP to u SG whiners!! Cheebye!!
malaysian friend, singapore is just about the only country that like to use the term "world-class"
so why keep comparing singapore to 3rd world nations?
compare singapore to japan, south korea, australia, canada, UK, USA.
maybe its not us who lack "3rd world" experience. it you who lack the overseas exposure. the world outside singapore is not just "3rd world" nations.
guys in this forum, listen.. lets just ignore starlandliu and any further commens made by him. he is a little kid who doesnt know what he is talking about. and i think he loves this attention so lets not give his immature self that pleasure. lets move on and ignore any posts he makes no matter how tempted we get to knock some sense into him. he will learn in good time when he grows up takes life's hard knocks himself.
To The Muzaffar:
--Sry, Lim Peh is nt so good in SG politics and english, would u mind leaving this comment in Starliu's blog, so that he can answer your fine explaination?
Hehe, dun wory, i left comment in his world and he's a nice boy :)
Si bei gao wu di...
Lim Peh's humble advice will be that, u should just move on than to waste your time here, slandering others here for opposing your views.
Hey, u ppl can't referring others as "PAP spy lah, PAP dog lah, PAP this and PAP there". If u r mature, move on.
Your SG GE was over, no use fucking their heads and throwing rocks onto them. U ppl should work in hand with hand with the your govt to produce a stronger SG and challenge directly with other develop countries.
Liao Gai Bo?
argh.. enough of all these..
maturity doesnt COME with age this i can guarrantee that.. starlandliu still has a long way to go and also to learn about SG politics..give him some more years and also time for him to grow up and also know more..for the time being.. and also lets stop all these.. 500 comments already.. whaa... this is astonishing.. i would want to hear rockson's opinion on this matter...
And for those people that are supposedly in malaysia.. with their nick.. as old what lim what pek what.. one.. i can say that i still want to live in SG because of one word that is hardly found in other countries.. security.. thats the only thing thats keeping me here..
and oh yeah from this person that is from malaysia and commented this passage.
He is trying to make sense of Loyalty and Die for Singapore, so as to promote strong civil concepts which u guys lack of, but u said "Oh, those MP dun wan to protect Singapore, so I also dun wan to protect"?
Childish thinking liao...
At least Starliu participated actively in political discussion at age of 17, where are u during his age? Still dreaming or playing sex?
I can tell u i love SG.. and i will glady protect SG from harm for the people i love and those that are closed to me.. its the government that must change.. we die also die for SG not for the government.
No matter what the Situation was different.. comparing the last time world which i live in at 17 and the time now that hes 17? Things change.. dun anyhow compare can?
hmmm and another one..
Your SG GE was over, no use fucking their heads and throwing rocks onto them. U ppl should work in hand with hand with the your govt to produce a stronger SG and challenge directly with other develop countries.
Everything that happen sure have its significance de.. GE to most SG ppl is a life impacting choice that they would have to make.. we would like to work hand with hand together with the government and also support them.. provided that they hear OUR PLEAS first.. if they turn a deaf ear to us and wishes us for us to support them and cooperate with them then tell me.. who doesnt want a better life? who doesnt want a stronger SG.. where our jobs.. will be stable.. income will be stable.. taxes and transportation costs will be more affordable for everyone.. where everyone supports the government and respect the government.. and a government that listens to their own ppl.. doing things that are in FAVOUR of the people and not for themselves.. who doesnt want that to happen?
But now.. the problem is.. does the government listen to the pleas of the people? u answer that.. yourself.. in your own heart..
yeah same sentiment with vemdetta... i am proud to be a singaporean but not proud of the gahmen....
To Mazaffar:
Just now, I got sufted his blog and wrote some comment but delete it, hehe. Because got lao lim peh around...^_^
Okay, I try commenting your post but no offensive.
--> However, as a result of the lack of opposition to keep their activities in check, there are fears that our government may go towards downfall.
<--Agreed here. Because of their 41 years of success, they became elegant or arrogant. They can sued whatever people they dislike, blocked suggestions from commoners and always stand in their party's shoes instead of sparing a thought for us, the people. However, on the positive point of this, they can carry out policies that really really benefits the country without opposing force. So, there is pros and cons of opposition ruling together with PAP.
--> If you studied chinese history and literature, you will know this scenario pretty well. First generation creates wealth (LKY), Second generation preserves it (LSL) and the Third generation spends it.
<-- Yes, that was true. However, ancient China was ruled over by imperial families and there was no election. Here in Singapore, we voters can at least use our votes to threatened them. Sounds fun but it is a healthy way to show our political concerns.
-->A small country like us cant afford to be complacent with ministers blurting out that they want to fix opposition and buy votes.
<--Hmmm... I do really dislike about how those "highly intelligent" minister treated us like fools. "Fix" is a word used by gangsters and shouldn't be used by "high class" government. They used Progress Package to buy votes but many people are very happy about this because they got money $$$ to enjoy. It is like this, politics is very dirty and unfair. If opposition uses money, they may even win the election(hope so).
-->We Singaporeans have a lot to be thankful for but God's fair.
<--Oh...credits to "Mr Chidlish Singaporeans" aka Malaysia Lim Peh to described his life in Malaysia as compared to Singapore. But thankfully for PAP to brings us out of this situation in the past days of 1964 and 1965 where we still have racial riots, unstability political and conflicts between our dear Lee Kuan Yew with Tunku.
-->Malaysia, I'm sure is improving under Mr Badawi's leadership.
<--Can I comment on Malaysia? Mr Old Lim Peh? I think Malaysia will catches up with the leading of Badawi. As you can see, Malaysia's politics and economics undergo much changes since he taken the PM position from Tun Mahathir a few years ago. And the relationship between Malaysia with Singapore has been repaired all thanks to him.
-->That takes time. Singapore on the other hand is almost at a plateau and if it drops, it would be horrible.
<--Let us hope that this will not be happen in Singapore. I guess that that LHL is a talented and opened person, sure he will still be able to lead us. He is different from LKY, his father. However, next election, it is wise to "invite" a few more opposition seats, just in case PAP downfall as you mentioned.
hey..i come here read the blog..wat i hate most is when i c this guy call JEROME. his face simply turn me off!knn..pls comment without your pix included.if u r hansem or chio bu..of cos ok..knn..go vomit liao!!keigo
To Starlandliu,
-Agreed here. Because of their 41 years of success, they became elegant or arrogant. They can sued whatever people they dislike, blocked suggestions from commoners and always stand in their party's shoes instead of sparing a thought for us, the people. However, on the positive point of this, they can carry out policies that really really benefits the country without opposing force. So, there is pros and cons of opposition ruling together with PAP.
Please shut the fuck up, can?
Agreed here. Because of their 41 years of success, they HAVE becOme elegant or arrogant. They can SUE whatever people they dislike, BLOCK suggestions from commoners and always stand in their party's shoes instead of sparing a thought for us, the people. However, on the positive point of this, they can carry out policies that really really BENEFIT the country without AN opposing force. So, there ARE pros and cons of opposition ruling together with PAP.
KNNBCCB! So many mistakes!
Standardliu,
you're idea of a one party leadership is all good, assuming that our leaders are saints who have the best interests of the people first in their hearts. However, look at the situation now and I cannot say with my hand to my heart that that is the case. Even if they're intentions are good, clearly they are out of touch with the plights of the common man. Rockson may not have put it so eloquently, but can all these elites who get the best benefits our system have to offer really identify with the majority of the ppl who don't? I come from a school where there is a clear distinction between the 'top' half and the rest who are treated as nothing less than junk. This is the reality of Singapore. Rather than say it is the people who have lost our morals, could that not happen to the government too? Remember, in ancient history, despite the autocratic power of the Chinese Emperors, there is still something known as the 'Mandate of Heaven'. An Emperor is only deemed fit to rule so much as he can keep his people happy. Otherwise the mandate passes on and the people are more than entitled to remove him. You see the govt preventing riots and civil unrest as a bonus to us, I tell you that it should be the least we expect of them.
As for sacrificing for your country, what makes you think all these people on here have not done their fare share? There is only so much you can give without expecting anything in return. Just take NS for example. All these older people have at least given 2 and half years of their lives in service to their country which is more than you can say for yourself. It's not your fault because you have not reached the age yet, but do not belittle that contribution we give. You like to claim that all these older people are immature or whatever, but they have seen more of the world than you have and I believe certainly have already examined both sides of the coin b4 expressing their feelings here. When it comes to the crunch and a war comes or something, it is these people who will be fighting for the country at the frontline, not your ministers. Sad to say this, but alot of scholars i know, the very type of people who will go on to be key figures in Singapore, do not quite share the same patriotic zeal as you Standard and would take the first chance to leave Singapore given the chance. You say that we should go and try to become politicians, but do you really think the selection system here is really based on meritocracy? Can anyone get into parliament just like tat? Historically, Guan Zhong was a failed businessman and war deserter born into a poor family who was appointed a statesman because of his talent. You think that is possible in Singapore given our political system? Srry but over here a piece of paper and your connections and status is all that distinguishes your worth.
As for Mr Malaysia,
Dun really think you have the right to comment on what is going on here in Singapore. Mebbe in Malaysia you're accustomed to blindly taking wat is fed to you by a bumiputra govt, but here we like to believe that our lives are in our hands. If you're happy with the status quo over there, fair enough. Over here, we ARE the country and have given much into it. At 18, many of us were wearing green uniforms, holding rifles and marching all day. What were you doing? Playing nintendo at home? Going to a uni and picking up girls? Sorry but we do not have that kind of luxury. Unlike how it is over in your country, we have to actually gurantee our own existence.
Are you trully loyal to your country? Do you even understand what the term means? Loyalty does not mean blind obedience. It means taking a stand when you see things going wrong for the sake of the country. Just because things are a bitch should not mean we have to lie down and accept it. Like tat, nothing will ever change. If you want to compare with a third world country, then you might as well go over there and do charity work to eleviate their suffering. You know what Lim Peh tell you? Lim Peh tell you that he who lives in glass houses should not throw stones.
Don't confuse between the two:
Loyalty to Singapore v. Loyalty to PAP.
and read less PAP's blog such as Straits Times, Asia1.com, CNA...etc.
where is rockson? how come no more updates? He ok or not?
we the CITIZENS of SINGAPORE
pledge ourselves as one UNITED PEOPLE
REGARDLESS of race, language or religion
to build a DEMOCRATIC society
based on JUSTICE and EQUALITY
so to achieve HAPPINESS, PROSPERITY and PROGRESS for our NATION
please truly understand these terms before engaging in flaming and mudslinging
To all anoymous who flamed Lim peh:
>>we the CITIZENS of SINGAPORE
pledge ourselves as one UNITED PEOPLE
REGARDLESS of race, language or religion
to build a DEMOCRATIC society
based on JUSTICE and EQUALITY
so to achieve HAPPINESS, PROSPERITY and PROGRESS for our NATION.<<
--As your late Rajar, who was famous in M'sia at the 1960s, wrote this pledge for u all SGs but until today, this glory, however, is disappearing. Lim Peh drive bus everyday through and from Singapore schools and starting to understand how u SGs been loyalty to your nation. Sadly to said, many of u mistaken PAP as Singapore. I mean is: U all take PAP as an excuse nt to loyal to Singapore. Ps lah, PAP is just your ruliing party, not Singapore party. U guys can't mixed PAP with Singapore and kick them. I also know that many young SGs hate singing your Mujullah Singapura anthem, from schools to offices.--
>>we the CITIZENS of SINGAPORE
pledge ourselves as one UNITED PEOPLE.<<
--Are u all really one united people? I say no. Slandering the PAP party, hate to sing national anthem, fight among yourselves for greed. That is nt one united people in one nation.--
>>REGARDLESS of race, language or religion<<
--Modern young Singaporeans discriminated Chinese Language and chinese religion, Lim Peh also know that some Chinese in Singapore being arrested for racist.--
>>to build a DEMOCRATIC society
based on JUSTICE and EQUALITY<<
--Your PAP stripped off freedom of speeches. No justice for them to commit mistakes. And no equality as your PAP dominated everyone and claim themselves as "elites". No democracy but a more communist-like.--
>>so to achieve HAPPINESS, PROSPERITY and PROGRESS for our NATION.<<
--YOUR NATION. Is there happiness when the people slandering PAP? Is there prosperity when the poor SGs suffered too much under PAP ruling? Is the progess when everyone foucs on kicking PAP down instead of working hard in your job?
Before anyone dare slandering Lim Peh back, think about your national pledge and ask yourself, towards and inwards your heart, as a Singaporean.
Let me tell u SGs, your PAP is ruling Singapore very well. By kicing them down is NOT loyalty to SG, if they die, the whole SG might just collasped. Loyalty is: Willing to stand up for SG in terms of economy downfall, political unstability. Willing to die for SG when Lim Peh invade Singapore one day. And lastly, willing to sing SG national anthem, loud and clear.
And kindly excuses Lim Peh's english mistakes as I am nt good in this area(M'sia only teaches us Malay in my schooling days).
As for that annoymous children who slandering Starliu for:
>>Please shut the fuck up, can?<<
and
>>KNNBCCB! So many mistakes!<<
--At least Starliu is polite and try his best to explain and he doesn't wrote any vulgarities here. Unlike u, only hide a iron rod behind your annoymous crook and attack him in the dark. U think your English also very good, is it? PS LAH! U imagine doing your A Level with "KNNCCB" and "shut the fuck up" in your papers and sent to Cambridge and said "Pls, examiners, I know u all are very good in English and pls accept my fucking Cheebye English, can?" Hahahaha!
I suggest u to teach yourself a "polite" english first before u teach others for their grammar.
Last but not least, to u, shut your gap up!
enough lar knn!!!! keep toking about erection! sianz bo? knn already over liao still tok tok tok... no wonder lao Lee went out of sillypore to tour using tax payer $$$ knn....
Ya Lah!!! Stop bitching about election!!!
Boring lah!!!
Get over it and move on!!!
Seems that Mr Malaysian is very happy with status quo. If you can only see a world ruled by UMNO, good for you. The PAP is not Singapore and well as they have done so far for us, we can always hope and strive for better. Just as the sky's not the limit, so too is the PAP not the limit for Singapore.
It's all in the family eh? LOL
http://www.sfdonline.org/Link%20Pages/Link%20Folders/02Pf/glc_100202.html#Relatives
One happy famiLEE: Staying together, enRICHing ahead!
Mdm Ho Ching Wife of PM: Chairman of Chartered Semiconductor, ST Engineering, ST Capital, StarHub, Deputy Chairman of Singapore Technologies, and Director of Temasek Holdings and SembCorp Industries (Singapore Technologies unit)
Brigadier-General Lee Hsien Yang Brother of PM: Chief Executive of SingTel Group and SESAMi Inc (SingTel unit), and Director of Singapore Technologies Industrial Corporation and National Computer Systems (SingTel unit)
Colonel (Dr) Kwa Soon Bee Uncle (Mother’s Brother) of PM: Managing Director of Jurong Bird Park, Chairman of Wildlife Reserves Singapore and Director of Keppel Land
Mr Edmund Lee Cousin (Father’s Brother’s Son) of PM: Chief Executive of DBS Vickers (DBS and Singapore Technologies unit)
Mr Kwa Chong Seng Cousin (Mother’s Brother’s Son) of PM: Deputy Chairman of Temasek Holdings (Ministry of Finance unit)
Mr Ho Sing Brother-In-Law (Wife’s Brother) Vice President of Singapore Precision Industries 2000 (Singapore Technologies unit) and Director of Advanced Materials Technologies (Singapore Technologies unit)
Mrs Lee Suet Fern Sister-In-Law (Brother’s Wife) of PM: Director of SembCorp Logistics
Ms Lim Suet Boey Sister-In-Law’s Sister (Brother’s Wife’s Sister) of PM: Senior Vice President of SembCorp Utilities
Eh... Rockson, wat happen to U? Y so long no blog liao? U kanna sent to sentosa liao, is it?
Luv ur blogs man.
Update when you cheebye update
rockons where you sia kena mica ah?
Jerome, just do a google search on any of the famiLEE members. For example, google on "Lim Suet Boey":
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=Lim+Suet+Boey+&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
I guess LKY could never forsee in the 1960s/70s how the internet allows information to circumvent his tight grip on singapore media.
http://singaporeelection.blogspot.com/2006/05/singapore-ministers-pay-legitimised.html
A couple of weeks ago I wrote a post, "Inequality, Again," that reflected upon the large and growing gap between the incomes of the richest US CEOs and the average worker, using Mencius and the Tao Te Ching as points of reference. Well, it seems that I should have included the Prime Minister of Singapore, and his band of merry, grossly overpaid, ministers in the ranks of the most greedy and grasping of global fat cats. Here's a news item from Singapore Election Watch today, May 1st, international workers day:
The below table puts things back in proper perspective: (these are basic figures as of July 2000 and did not include last year's pay hikes or other benefits. Otherwise the updated numbers may well be much larger)
1. Singapore President's Basic Salary US$1,483,000 (SGD$2,373,100)*a year Singapore Prime Minister's Basic Salary US$1,100,000 (SGD1,958,000) a year
Minister's Basic: US$655,530 to US$819,124 (SGD1,166,844 to SGD1,458,040) a year
2. United States of America President: US$200,000 Vice President: US$181,400 Cabinet Secretaries: US$157,000
3. United Kingdom Prime Minister: US$170,556 Ministers: US$146,299 Senior Civil Servants: US$262,438
4. Australia Prime Minister: US$137,060 Deputy Prime Minister: US$111,439 Treasurer: US$102,682
5. Hong Kong Chief Executive : US$416,615 Top Civil Servant: US$278,538 Financial Sec: US$315,077
Source: Asian Wall Street Journal July 10 2000 *Singapore President's salary which was updated in 2005 from the Singapore Straits Times
In relative terms, less then 20% of Singaporeans here have take home salaries exceeding SGD100,000/- A YEAR.
In stark contrast, BASIC SALARY FOR A MINISTER STARTS AT SGD1,166,844 A YEAR,OR JUST UNDER SGD100,000 A MONTH.
What these ministers earns in just ONE MONTH exceeds the ANNUAL TAKE HOME salary of 80% of Singapore's income earning population. Lets not even begin to compare annual packages which will exceed SGD1 million easily.
The unjustifiable over-compensation of PAP power-holders is another reminder of the corruption of the political system. They rationalize their riches in business terms: they are CEOs receiving the "industry standard" for excellent performance in high-stakes, high-stress jobs. But this is just so much fancy talk. Their overblown pay is really the result of their monopoly on power. Not only are they the judge and jury for the compliant judiciary, but they are also their own paymasters, effortlessly spooning funds from the public treasury into their own personal bank accounts. Let's cut through the business school rhetoric and see their self-interested materialism for what it is, as this Singaporean does:
A 29 yr old executive who requested to remain anonymous admitted sheepishly ; "The numbers (ministerial salaries) are a national embarrassment really, because it reflects the underlying materialistic value systems of Singapore Ministers. No matter how you look at it, the fact remains that our ministers are money faced, and these are supposed to be Singapore's leaders, with value systems that Singaporeans should follow." "It (the ministerial salaries) puts Singapore in a bad light in the eyes of the world. The rest of Singaporeans really put in an honest days work for every penny they earn. And the process for review and approval of the ministerial salaries is also a joke. Imagine sitting on the board and approving (on White Paper)your own salary increments! Its all a wayang show".
All of this is yet another indication of how far PAP reality is from the Confucian ideals they sometimes invoke. Mencius, for example, would certainly advise them to drastically cut their salaries:
"There's plenty of juicy meat in your kitchen and plenty of well-fed horses in your stable," continued Mencius, "but the people here look hungry, and in the countryside they're starving to death. You're feeding humans to animals. Everyone hates to see animals eat each other, and an emperor is the people's father and mother - but if his government feeds humans to animals, how can he claim to the people's father and mother?" (7)
People are not starving in the streets in Singapore. But inequality is obviously stark and exorbitant PAP salaries, and the perquisites they bring, are the modern equivalent of "feeding humans to animals," as suggested in this report on a massive Worker's Party rally by Yawning Bread:
Soon after, Sylvia Lim, the Chairperson of the Workers Party, took the stage and spoke in English. For the next 10 minutes, she dealt with just one topic, hammering the point home. She spoke about rising healthcare costs, and how, instead of thinking of ways to help people, the government was thinking of ways to limit the use of subsidies.
Even if you're prepared to put up with C class wards (the lowest of three categories of comfort), she said, you might not get C class. The government has already indicated that they would implement means-testing. Only the truly needy would get C class, she told the crowd.
Then she went on a bit about the various ways of means-testing, and how no way is truly fair, before coming back to the point that the People's Action Party (PAP) government really isn't in sync with the people's concerns.
The PAP lives large, while making life more difficult for people on the bottom of the socio-economic heap.
I know how the PAP would respond: Singapore was a poor place in 1965; we managed economic development that improved the living standards of most Singaporeans; our authoritarianism is necessary to provide basic needs to the people. And the response, from the 2006 perspective is this: it's 2006! The "Singapore was poor" argument faded into irrelevance at least 15 years ago. The current elections are not about 1990 or 1980, they're about 2006. And in 2006 the PAP has hardened into a sclerotic, corrupt power structure that is used to transfer wealth from average workers to the authoritarian elite.
The Tao Te Ching gets at the underlying problem nicely:
Understanding sparse and sparser still I travel the great Way, nothing to fear unless I stray.
The great Way is open and smooth, but people adore twisty paths: Government in ruins, fields overgrown, and granaries bare, they indulge in elegant robes and sharp swords, lavish food and drink, all those trappings of luxury.
It's vainglorious thievery - not the Way, not the Way at all. (passage 53)
The PAP is not about "Asian values" or "Confucian virtues." It is about a leadership that adores "twisty paths." It's about old-fashioned human greed. PAP leaders do not lead by example, they do not practice what they preach; they are not following Confucian principles and are not in keeping with Way.
So, here are some campaign slogans we can use:
PAP: Feeding Humans to Animals!
PAP: Vainglorious Thievery!
i voted for WP and i live in aljunied. they should have bloody won hands down. everyone was jeering about the reults.
U voted for WP and u live in aljunied. But i am very sure the old lady in your house kitchen did not voted for WP. If can't change her mind then WP will still can't win even after 15 years.
wait 15 yrs, the old lady die liow... then WP have chance!
dont like dat lar.. PAP working hard u know!!! they sent teams to PATTAYA to brain storm how to make life easy for us. the Resort there can relax and think better u know. HEARD it is cheaper then Sentosa, that is why they sent the teams there. like me lor, i use the progress package to go oversea spent money. hahaa
PATTAYA: maybe they send you there when you are old and cannot contribute to our economy liao.
"What are we going to do? They are not going to conveniently die off..."
Permanent Secretary of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Mr. Bilahari Kausikan
Vote PAP. LOL
"I think its pointless to vote for an opposition candidate who clearly lacks the ability to scrutinise and critique policies in an inteliigent way."- Lydia Lim
"Retrenchment is good for singapore. If there is no retrenchments, then I worry."- SM Goh
"The opposition's plans to 'give and give' will lead to $ingaporeans having to pay higher taxes in order to foot the bill, General Lee Hsien Loong said at a rally in Tampines."- then DPM Lee in 2001
"$2.6b "Progress Package" for lower-income groups, elderly, NSmen"- now PM Lee in 2006
"Contrary to public perception, the White Horse classification is not to ensure that sons of influential men gets preferential treatment. Instead it is to ensure that they do not get preferential treatment."- Cedric Foo
"I don't think that there should be a cap on the number of directorship that a person can hold."- PAP MP John Chen who holds 8 directorships
"It's not for the money because some of the companies pay me as little as $10,000 a year."- PAP MP Wang Kai Yuen who holds 11 directorships.
"We are not considering a casino but an IR- an integrated resort. IRs are quite different."- George Yeo
"If you want to dance on a bar top, some of us will fall off the bar top. Some people will die as a result of liberalising bar top dancing .... a young girl with a short skirt dancing on it may attract some insults from some other men, the boyfriend will start fighting and some people will die."- Vivian Balakrishnan
"I would want to form an alternative policies group in Parliament, comprising 20 PAP MPs. These 20 PAP MPs will be free to vote in accordance with what they think of a particular policy. In other words, the whip for them will be lifted. This is not playing politics, this is something which I think is worthwhile doing."- SM Goh
"If you sing Jailhouse Rock with your electric guitar when others are playing Beethoven, you are out of order. The whip must be used on you."- SM Goh again, on a dramatic u-turn, rethink or backtrack, whatever you call it.
"THE National Kidney Foundation (NKF) spends more than 80 per cent of its funds on its beneficiaries."- Lim Hng Khiang
"Save on one hairdo and use the money for breast screening."- another gem from Lim Hng Kiang
"We started off with (the name) and after looking at everything, the name that really tugged at the heartstrings was in front of us. The name itself is not new, but what has been used informally so far has endeared itself to all parties."- Mah Bow Tan on the $400 000 exercise to rename Marina Bay as Marina Bay.
"Having enjoyed football as a national sport for decades, we in Singapore have set ourselves the target of reaching the final rounds of World Cup in 2010."- Ho Peng Kee
"Only 5% are unemployed. We still have 95% who are employed."- Yeo Cheow Tong. Duh.
"Singaporean workers have become more expensive than those in the USA and Australia."- Tony Tan
“People support CPF cuts because there are no protest outside parliament."- PM Lee
"No, it was not a U-turn, and neither was it a reversal of govt policy. But you can call it a rethink."- Yeo Cheow Tong
"...I regret making the decision because, in the end, the baby continued to be in intensive care, and KKH now runs up a total bill of more than $300,000..."- Lim Hng Kiang, regretting the decision to save a baby's life because KKH ran up a $300 000 bill
"If we want to be a world-class city, if we want to be a nation that has got very good standards of public hygiene and cleanliness, the best place to start with is the public toilet."- Amy Khor, PAP MP
"Restoring the pay cuts of civil servants and ministers is reasonable as Singapore's economy has now regained momentum."- Ng Eng Hen
"I don't think my reading for the economy is strong enough for us to even consider asking for the restoration of the cut in CPF."- Lim Boon Heng
"If we ever introduce anything like quotas or incentives based on race, it will reinforce the perception that Malays and Indians have low skills and can only get jobs because of an incentive or quota."- Tharman Shanmugaretnam
"These schools (SAP schools) need to remain essentially Chinese to give the edge in interacting with China..."- self contradictory statement made by Tharman Shanmugaretnam again
"We must encourage those who earn less than $200 per month and cannot afford to nurture and educate many children never to have more than two... We will regret the time lost if we do not now take the first tentative steps towards correcting a trend which can leave our society with a large number of the physically, intellecually and culturally anaemic."- MM Lee in 1967
"If you don't include your women graduates in your breeding pool and leave them on the shelf, you would end up a more stupid society...So what happens? There will be less bright people to support dumb people in the next generation. That's a problem."- MM Lee in 1983
"The PAP Government has always thrived on its ability to anticipate problems."- Wong Kan Seng
"We are not able to be everywhere as a government to know everthing in Singapore"- PM Lee
Is this genetic or something?
Said Lee Kuan Yew: "If I were arrogant, would I be talking to you?" (In response to a journalist's comment on My Vote, saying that some people feel him to be arrogant).
I must give him all respect for this undefeatable statement. It is truly a dumbfounding, mind-boggling, flabbergasting masterpiece of rhetoric to which there is no intuitive reply. It is a statement that presupposes his superior status, and confers a notion of graciousness and humility upon the very fact that he would consent to have free and direct dialogue with young Singaporeans. Here I am talking to lower lifeforms. Obviously I can't be arrogant.
Said Lee Hsien Loong: "If I weren't taking this seriously, would I be here?" (Broadcasted on News 5 Tonight, said to TV cameras while walking the grounds.)
A statement almost worthy of his father's finesse -- his very presence gracing our midst is proof enough that he is concerned and serious about the contest to win our hearts and our votes. The supreme high chancellor himself has deigned to kiss my baby, oh my god he must really care!
http://i-speak.blogdrive.com/archive/cm-5_cy-2006_m-5_d-24_y-2006_o-20.html
whoever slandering PAP will vanished in a horrible and ironic death!
If u prefer to spend 15 yrs time to wait for the silly old lady goto hell than try to do some other things, then i can't comment anything, but i am very sure that the cost of living will shot up more than 15 times within 15 yrs. If u can stand then u continue wait for it.
whoever slandering Mr.SL will die in a terrible and cruel death!
whoever slandering Mr.SL will die in a terrible and cruel death!
I think I must tell the old lady in my house kitchen that after 5 to 15 year i have to send her to PATTAYA, because i can't afford for her to continue to stay here, and tell her i have to go there also when i old, then see whether she still wants to support the pple who make her can't die at her own country n home.
I LOVE Starliu's comments, he's so loyal and I agree with him. We must be thankful for what we have, and that we can't possibly be "smoked" by the government lah. Look at our students, they all have very high stds for maths and science. We are all so bright, who can cheat us?
Exactly! I agree with StarLandLiu. I only restrict my readings to Straits Times, Asia1, CNA and textbooks approved by Ministry of Education. My brain is clean. I refuse to read the rest and I'm one happy citizen.
So we are willing to die for Singapore but PAP wants us to die in Pattaya, JB, Bintam ..etc when we are old and useless to the economy? Sweeeee.....et!
American President's salary is now USD $400,000 per annum.
Peanuts compared to PAP gahmen but I think Bush tulan why he has to manage American interest on a global scale and then some PAP-elites managing some tiny GRC getting paid more than him. LOL.
Answer: Because Singaporeans are willing to fork out taxes and pay for those salaries lah.
next time i also want to be pesident.can make lotsa $$ just by standing and waving the hands during the national day.
you must also be willing to hug and kiss babies too. also learn how to say this with oompf!:
"If I were arrogant, would I be talking to you?"
remember that you are talking to the peasants, the lower lifeforms. so you can't be arrogant.
cool..dats wad i hafta sae abt all ur article.n i tot the brainwashed Gen Y kidos hu go against the govt were a dyin breed.ur article+the many,MANY comments here proves otherwise.TIME TO STAND UP PPL!!!b brainwashed no longer!cum nex GE,fuck dem big time!fuck dose mother fucking son of a bitch pissing assholes.show dem U r the boss.show dem the TRUE meanin of democracy.change spore 4 the beta!n nt diz pseudo-democratic piece of shitass red dot.
as for the media?SCREW OFF manz!we dun nid u.we dun nid to b told wad to do u bloody wankers.u tink we r still kidos hu cant tell ur propaganda n cum?[sarcastic]oh yesh we cant tell...mebbe in ur wet dreams motherfuckers!
wellwell.."stayin ahead,movin together".wad a beautiful line.n yet wad a heinous threat it contains!"if u dun vote fer us,u can go fuck urself+we-dun-gif-a-damn-abt-u"is the TRUE msg!but diz is WAD we Gen Y hafta sae to u pissass PAP:
FUCK U.
n we'll create our own future.a world of true independence n an understandin of the word 'freedom'
wait n see
cool..dats wad i hafta sae abt all ur article.n i tot the brainwashed Gen Y kidos hu go against the govt were a dyin breed.ur article+the many,MANY comments here proves otherwise.TIME TO STAND UP PPL!!!b brainwashed no longer!cum nex GE,fuck dem big time!fuck dose mother fucking son of a bitch pissing assholes.show dem U r the boss.show dem the TRUE meanin of democracy.change spore 4 the beta!n nt diz pseudo-democratic piece of shitass red dot.
as for the media?SCREW OFF manz!we dun nid u.we dun nid to b told wad to do u bloody wankers.u tink we r still kidos hu cant tell ur propaganda n cum?[sarcastic]oh yesh we cant tell...mebbe in ur wet dreams motherfuckers!
wellwell.."stayin ahead,movin together".wad a beautiful line.n yet wad a heinous threat it contains!"if u dun vote fer us,u can go fuck urself+we-dun-gif-a-damn-abt-u"is the TRUE msg!but diz is WAD we Gen Y hafta sae to u pissass PAP:
FUCK U.
n we'll create our own future.a world of true independence n an understandin of the word 'freedom'
wait n see
cool..dats wad i hafta sae abt all ur article.n i tot the brainwashed Gen Y kidos hu go against the govt were a dyin breed.ur article+the many,MANY comments here proves otherwise.TIME TO STAND UP PPL!!!b brainwashed no longer!cum nex GE,fuck dem big time!fuck dose mother fucking son of a bitch pissing assholes.show dem U r the boss.show dem the TRUE meanin of democracy.change spore 4 the beta!n nt diz pseudo-democratic piece of shitass red dot.
as for the media?SCREW OFF manz!we dun nid u.we dun nid to b told wad to do u bloody wankers.u tink we r still kidos hu cant tell ur propaganda n cum?[sarcastic]oh yesh we cant tell...mebbe in ur wet dreams motherfuckers!
wellwell.."stayin ahead,movin together".wad a beautiful line.n yet wad a heinous threat it contains!"if u dun vote fer us,u can go fuck urself+we-dun-gif-a-damn-abt-u"is the TRUE msg!but diz is WAD we Gen Y hafta sae to u pissass PAP:
FUCK U.
n we'll create our own future.a world of true independence n an understandin of the word 'freedom'
cool..dats wad i hafta sae abt all ur article.n i tot the brainwashed Gen Y kidos hu go against the govt were a dyin breed.ur article+the many,MANY comments here proves otherwise.TIME TO STAND UP PPL!!!b brainwashed no longer!cum nex GE,fuck dem big time!fuck dose mother fucking son of a bitch pissing assholes.show dem U r the boss.show dem the TRUE meanin of democracy.change spore 4 the beta!n nt diz pseudo-democratic piece of shitass red dot.
as for the media?SCREW OFF manz!we dun nid u.we dun nid to b told wad to do u bloody wankers.u tink we r still kidos hu cant tell ur propaganda n cum?[sarcastic]oh yesh we cant tell...mebbe in ur wet dreams motherfuckers!
wellwell.."stayin ahead,movin together".wad a beautiful line.n yet wad a heinous threat it contains!"if u dun vote fer us,u can go fuck urself+we-dun-gif-a-damn-abt-u"is the TRUE msg!but diz is WAD we Gen Y hafta sae to u pissass PAP:
FUCK U.
n we'll create our own future.a world of true independence n an understandin of the word 'freedom'
cool..dats wad i hafta sae abt all ur article.n i tot the brainwashed Gen Y kidos hu go against the govt were a dyin breed.ur article+the many,MANY comments here proves otherwise.TIME TO STAND UP PPL!!!b brainwashed no longer!cum nex GE,fuck dem big time!fuck dose mother fucking son of a bitch pissing assholes.show dem U r the boss.show dem the TRUE meanin of democracy.change spore 4 the beta!n nt diz pseudo-democratic piece of shitass red dot.
as for the media?SCREW OFF manz!we dun nid u.we dun nid to b told wad to do u bloody wankers.u tink we r still kidos hu cant tell ur propaganda n cum?[sarcastic]oh yesh we cant tell...mebbe in ur wet dreams motherfuckers!
wellwell.."stayin ahead,movin together".wad a beautiful line.n yet wad a heinous threat it contains!"if u dun vote fer us,u can go fuck urself+we-dun-gif-a-damn-abt-u"is the TRUE msg!but diz is WAD we Gen Y hafta sae to u pissass PAP:
FUCK U.
n we'll create our own future.a world of true independence n an understandin of the word 'freedom'
cool..dats wad i hafta sae abt all ur article.n i tot the brainwashed Gen Y kidos hu go against the govt were a dyin breed.ur article+the many,MANY comments here proves otherwise.TIME TO STAND UP PPL!!!b brainwashed no longer!cum nex GE,fuck dem big time!fuck dose mother fucking son of a bitch pissing assholes.show dem U r the boss.show dem the TRUE meanin of democracy.change spore 4 the beta!n nt diz pseudo-democratic piece of shitass red dot.
as for the media?SCREW OFF manz!we dun nid u.we dun nid to b told wad to do u bloody wankers.u tink we r still kidos hu cant tell ur propaganda n cum?[sarcastic]oh yesh we cant tell...mebbe in ur wet dreams motherfuckers!
wellwell.."stayin ahead,movin together".wad a beautiful line.n yet wad a heinous threat it contains!"if u dun vote fer us,u can go fuck urself+we-dun-gif-a-damn-abt-u"is the TRUE msg!but diz is WAD we Gen Y hafta sae to u pissass PAP:
FUCK U.
n we'll create our own future.a world of true independence n an understandin of the word 'freedom'
cool..dats wad i hafta sae abt all ur article.n i tot the brainwashed Gen Y kidos hu go against the govt were a dyin breed.ur article+the many,MANY comments here proves otherwise.TIME TO STAND UP PPL!!!b brainwashed no longer!cum nex GE,fuck dem big time!fuck dose mother fucking son of a bitch pissing assholes.show dem U r the boss.show dem the TRUE meanin of democracy.change spore 4 the beta!n nt diz pseudo-democratic piece of shitass red dot.
as for the media?SCREW OFF manz!we dun nid u.we dun nid to b told wad to do u bloody wankers.u tink we r still kidos hu cant tell ur propaganda n cum?[sarcastic]oh yesh we cant tell...mebbe in ur wet dreams motherfuckers!
wellwell.."stayin ahead,movin together".wad a beautiful line.n yet wad a heinous threat it contains!"if u dun vote fer us,u can go fuck urself+we-dun-gif-a-damn-abt-u"is the TRUE msg!but diz is WAD we Gen Y hafta sae to u pissass PAP:
FUCK U.
n we'll create our own future.a world of true independence n an understandin of the word 'freedom'
to the lowly intellectual, human anatomy/secretion-spewing clowns who've been making a fool of Singapore and your damn shameful selves in front of the whole wide world all this while:
UTTER DISGRACE.
Our government are trying to help the lower income group, which is probably about 2 to 5% of the population, the government is using it as propaganda to show the government is doing a great job and care for the people. The worst is the midddle income, consisting of the majority, for this lot of people, the government is not helping them, instead regulating the high costs of living for them to catch up, either they die of worrying at the end of the day; or join the 5% at the end of the day; few of them might be just lucky that make it to join the rich ( could be touch 4D). This is why our society is so pressurised. the rich is controling the middle class with the help of government for economic reasons and the poor is the tools for the work of the government. Everyone wants a government to take care of all the people, but in reality is not possible. Do you think one day if we have all the grey hair people all over the street the government will look after them ... I dare not think what would happen when the time come. For those who have strong heart shall live and for those who have weak heart go to hell... Hahahah this is because of absent of a good welfare system to cater for the old people instead we are pushing the old to work till they die. You would notice that those who said wish to work through the old age are those low income group, why ? not enough money to do what they want to do - go travelling or buy 4D or maybe for the high medical fee.
one 82 yr old LKY step down, the salary can give jobs for 1,000 poor 82 yr old for $1,000 per month. better than $0 salary.
or ask some ministers to downgrade their salary to $600,000 lah. i know its peanuts and very painful for our elite ministers but the money can be use to hire more ppl mah.
"Anonymous said...
Exactly! I agree with StarLandLiu. I only restrict my readings to Straits Times, Asia1, CNA and textbooks approved by Ministry of Education. My brain is clean. I refuse to read the rest and I'm one happy citizen.
Wednesday, May 24, 2006 10:58:11 PM "
This blog not approved by Ministry of Education u know? n u also refuse to read, but y r u here, somemore write ur comment here. may i know who cheat u to here?
elite ppl ask me to come read this blog. dun u know rockson is an elite?
If starlandliu is not really a child then must be because our opp party too weak for too long period, so he become like that, if he is a child then we have to
wait! wait...until he mature.
wait! wait...for an old man to die.
wait! wait...for the old lady in the kitchen die.
wait! wait...until myself have to die at Pattaya then still have to wait...
wait! wait...for the next blog also have to wait long long .....
seems see these sentences "We are all so bright, who can cheat us? " somewhere in this blog comments, now u said "elite ppl ask u to come read this blog. dun u know rockson is an elite? ".
even an elite ask u to read another elite's blog u still have to wait for the approval by Ministry of Education, right ? if not ur brain will become not clean n not bright.
Convoluted postings! To sum up, we are all very lucky bunch to live in Singapore. Mr Yeo Cheow Tong just mentioned in the papers today that the fare hikes that everyone is ranting about are fair, and that we have to "have a sense of what is necessary" (something which many people around here don't possess). We should be thankful that we face fare hikes of ONLY 1 to 2 cents annually, and that this is something we are not going to find anywhere in the world. I am so happy that we are only facing such low fare hikes. REMEMBER IT COULD BE WORSE.
Our ministers are always the whipping boys when things go wrong; poor Mr Yeo also spoke about the kind of sacrifices he made ("My three girls have virtually grown up without me"). I am really impressed by his dedication to his work, and this gives us further insight with regards to justifying high salaries for the ministers- their job is really tough. Mr Yeo for example is so exhausted after all these years of hard work that he told his daughter, "I am not going to wake up for you every morning" to drive her to school.
Moreover the government is always prepared to make tough decisions when the need arises, and explains those policies and measures very thoroughly. This I am perfectly satisfied as it's all clean and honest, and there's no hiding of the truth.
Such openness is even more remarkable if you compare with countries like North Korea of even Vietnam where the decision makers don't even bother to give the wishes of their people due attention.
Lastly, with such a world class education that produced top students, we ought to count our blessings that this system is sustaining us and not suffocating us like what some people over here are suggesting.
yo Elites!!! go newspaper or mediacock to express ur views lar.. give me S$100k a month i also will work for 21 years!!!! knnbccb.. u toking cock ok!!!
u r the one with "Convoluted postings!"
pls stop telling us things r alrite, things can be worse and then compare singapore to north korea and vietnam. u dun compare "down". u compare "up" - e.g. Japan, France, Germany, UK...etc
u r nothing but a PAP cheerleader/retard
About the transport fare hikes -- It is not because of 1, 2 cents hike, but whether it is justified. The present fares are high.
The public transport should be delisted from the bourse and run as a non-profit organization, because the management always use the excuse that the interest of the share holders have to be taken care of. And a large portion of the profits is therefore sucked by the latters.
More fare hikes mean more profits, more profits mean bigger year-end bonus. Therefore the year-end bonus for the management staff should not be tied to the profits of the public transport companies but to the standard of service they provide.
Interesting, does anyone of you know our highly paid minister go for a pee during working hours, how much it costs the tax payer? Hahaha,
When Mr. Yeo told you his sad story, you become sympathetic, just like the NKF's show on TV for donation, everybody heart soft and give money. Now, many people talk about public transpot fare hikes, to Mr. Yeo is a small matter. Do you know how many people out there earn very much less than Mr.Yeo who also suffer the same fate, worse still, some don't even have a maids to looks after their children. Who these people are to tell you their stories, they are just layman who cares. Don't believe, just turn and look at our hawkers.
Mr. Yeo is lucky he can now see his daughter every morning. For some they have to wait untill their daughter grown up and put a blame on them.
People must realise that is not the matter of 1 or 2 cents of the public transport fare hikes, but other items be it food, drinks and goods will follow suit and increase the price, some even take it as an opportunity to increase more on their sale price. Sad thing our people do not unstand this phenomenon.
prepare $ from progress package to pay for higher transport cost, start to return the $ from progress package.
When public transport fare hikes are approved, the general market takes it as an indicator/excuse that it is time for price hikes.
Yes, I'm fully against listing of Public Transports & Utilities.
In fact there are many essentials that shouldn't be listed or at the least better regulated,eg:
1. Crude Oil & its derivatives- WTO should curb the speculative demand that resulted in the current very high price. The combined profit of more than US$120 billion last year for the top 5 oil companies alone is really obscene. These have not even include the oil producers, speculators, brokers, etc. Since Oil is becoming more and more like water & oxygen, which are basic necessities, its price must be regulated to rid it of the numerous speculative add-on costs.
2. Medical drugs - Why can't we put all research scientists & patent rights under WHO, reward those scientists directly for inventions and not the pharmaceutical companies & its shareholders. These drug companies should only be engaged as contract manufacturers by WHO to rid extravagance add-on costs and high profits.
We, the humanoids, should not pay such high price to enrich a handful of guiltless (devilish) assholes and put our basic needs and the survival of the millions of poor in their "hands of evil".
sial la. has rockson been caught by the ISD? - Doggy
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Anonymous said...
u r the one with "Convoluted postings!"
pls stop telling us things r alrite, things can be worse and then compare singapore to north korea and vietnam. u dun compare "down". u compare "up" - e.g. Japan, France, Germany, UK...etc
u r nothing but a PAP cheerleader/retard
>>pls stop telling us things r alrite, things can be worse and then compare singapore to north korea and vietnam.
--You're an idiot! Things were alright but it was you to make things worse. Life is alright but you whined and complained and whined again. An retard of you? Sure it is. By the way, Singapore is in ASIA. Of course you compare to ASIA countries, got it? Here you are, life is alright for you, yet you whined so much like a greedy children. Retarded rating to you!
>>u dun compare "down". u compare "up" - e.g. Japan, France, Germany, UK...etc
--Want compare "up"? Then go ahead. Japanese are more polite than you. France are more civilised than you. Germany are more loyalty than you. UK are more united than you. So want to compared again? You lose on that!
>>u r nothing but a PAP cheerleader/retard
--Oh is it? How cute are you! If not for PAP, you would have living in a third world nation, starving like hell. I assume you are an greedy, ungrateful and sefish person, so I won't take your retarded post that serious.
Well, I think you are an retarded making pathetic comments.
Get a brain man!
True, PAP was good.
But that was in the past.
In the past when everything else are bad.
To the one who wrote..
"Oh is it? How cute are you! If not for PAP, you would have living in a third world nation, starving like hell. I assume you are an greedy, ungrateful and sefish person, so I won't take your retarded post that serious."
Oh! we'll still a 3rd world country without PAP???
I'm certain we will not be very far behind even without them all these years!!!
Singapore, being a very strategic location (dragon's pearl), is the most important parameter of our success.
As long as we continue to maintain stabilty, uphold education & remains open-minded to attract foreign business & travellers, we will be ok.
Only PAP can be bring Singaporeans integrated resorts, bring in money, tourist and create jobs.
If the opposition were in government, they will be arguing with themselves about the social ills of gambling and will be deadlocked in analysis paralysis without any decisions.
Long live the PAP and its million dollar peanut makers. long live ah pek Lee and young lee.
Well said, Shaneii!!!
Singapore will enter the new 21st futuristic face with the new IR three towers design.
Well done PAP!
nothing's new being thrown up...
i just hope there's more transparency to explain
1)why while super profits are being earned, there must be hikes in transportation fees
2) why $400,000 was spent to think of a name "Marina Bay" and we concluded the new name of Marina Bay as "Marina Bay"
3) why $200,000 was spent on how to name "Budget Terminal" Budget Terminal...
http://channel-x.blogspot.com/
wahkaos, no more polling then you so quiet liaos... -.-"
Dear Shaneii & such - pls be mindful that IRs are the choice of no choice, after so many yrs of deliberation and many missed opportunities. If we have had it long ago, Genting will not be what it is today, Formula One & Disneyland may have been here as well...so Malaysia, Macau & Hong kong policy makers are better???
So shut your ass brain if you're ain't wise!
Pls use the right topic to sing praises!
amazed how the tone of your post can go suddenly from polite to rude. yet another low-quality post LOL.
eclipse2026.blogspot.com
eh update leh.
where is knncb rockson? why no update leh....
OMG
http://www.escapefromparadise.com/NewFiles/bc.html
Read about how corrupted singapore really is !!!
Thats it, im out of here
Will the mischievous elf who spends so much time here to keep changing and twisting others people's comments please stop it, beg you, please. Like a mischievous monkey, if you have nothing better to do, please don't be a vandaliser here, please.
Any blushing maverick will agree that Gayle Goh is a serious "Wonder Girl'...
Her blog is at http://www.i-speak.blogdrive.con
Her blog is at http://www.i-speak.blogdrive.com
>>Dear Shaneii & such - pls be mindful that IRs are the choice of no choice, after so many yrs of deliberation and many missed opportunities. If we have had it long ago, Genting will not be what it is today, Formula One & Disneyland may have been here as well...so Malaysia, Macau & Hong kong policy makers are better???
So shut your ass brain if you're ain't wise!
Pls use the right topic to sing praises!
--To Anti-IR activist: You should just open up your eyes on SIngapore. Our industrial has move out of Singapore. Our Economy will collasped if no alternative source of income is being input. The best way to to import IRs in to boost money to feed your egoristic and rudeness mouth.
--Instead of appreaciating the government's efforts to increase job employment and economy, you discredited them.
WHAT AN ASSCROW!!! SHUT YOUR ASS MOUTH UP!!!
And for those who advertised Gayle Goh's blog, no need to do that because no one is interested in her blog than to think of ways to boost your income as first thing first.
Don't be a pimp, okay?
Just shut the fuck up can. If you like PAP so much, why the fuck are you even here? Cheebye. U fucking sing praises about the PAP like you fucking get paid. Fucking look in the mirror and tell urself honestly, dun be a pimp can?
this is one place PAP worshippers can come. i mean try going to youngPAP forum, also got PAP bashing. win liao. like rubbing salt to wound. so might as well come here and challenge ppl who has "woken" up and seen through the PAP propaganday/brainwashing.
welcome to the system. red pill or blue pill? your choice.
HK Bus Uncle? we got S'pore Lift Auntie...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LndKjx6mVHY
Rockson got arrested???
Possible
u mean the matrix agents manage to overpower our rockson? how can?!!
rockson has either been "fixed" or bought out liao.
hahaha... the penalty of going against the famiLEE, the emperor and dragon heir is to kenah "fixed" - defamation suits, jail and friends/family-wide retrenchment. that will teach u a lesson to go against the dynasty.
"Yes, Singapore has more prosperity. But you have to ask: prosperity for who?"
"Since the Asian financial crisis bit in 1997, the gap between rich and poor has widened dramatically. While Singapore has the world's fastest growing number of millionaires, the poorest have seen their incomes halve over the past decade."
To:Dun come to this webby if you love PAP so much. said...
>>Just shut the fuck up can. If you like PAP so much, why the fuck are you even here? Cheebye. U fucking sing praises about the PAP like you fucking get paid. Fucking look in the mirror and tell urself honestly, dun be a pimp can?
--SHUT YOU FUCK UP, ASSCROW!!!
GO KISS YOUR CHAO CHEEBYE OPPOSITION ASS!!!
PIMPER!!!!
is asscrow and opp-pimper the same person? r u trying to get rockson's comments to hit the 1,000 mark or what? LOL
haha.. all u papa supporters can talk talk talk.. say until papa also suck your cock. gahment is godfather ok, like the americano godfather series, pro politicians that suck ppl cock then eat their lollies. carrot? fuck lah I also got my own carrot, no need filthy gahment carrot. even those sg pr serve ns super tulan with gahment for not giving out to them. knnh fuck u ns, and whatever gahment profess lah. see lah, i can sure say this time pap will only go down down down. this time ppl will FIX u and destroy lee dynasty. lau lee.. u going to die soon, i hope u die faster so i can have much needed holiday!! wahaha
papa work so hard for the familee and pay himself peanuts. such selfless dedication. yet u guys still continue to bash the familee.
really ungrateful!
you guys are really dumb. rockson is a PAP crony and his post was meant to ensnare you. now you are done for. 609 replies already where the fuck is rockson? laughing his way to the bank...
Si liao, lockson tio liak liao. Ahn neh gu pun boh update, wa kwah si hor ISD liak ke liao.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNROYxSM0HM&search=15%20full
I heard that too. He got caught for #$%^ familee.
familee works selflessly for the nation, paying themselves peanuts. which leaders in the world so good like familee? even usa, uk and australia leader also no horse run man.
yet u guys think u like matrix heroes, want to challenge the matrix system familee has created. so ungrateful, kenah ISD, well u deserved it. i starlandliu will die for the familee. @#$@# traitors!
OI ROCKSON CONTINUE POSTING LEH. KIA LA!
the matrix system i created is perfect. my people r brainwashed on a daily basis via CNA, straitstimes and asia1.
the few anomalies who manage to wakeup shall be subjected to a superficial enquiry by the ISD and then terminated quietly.
nobody survives challenging the matrix.
So long no update. Must have been poked in the arse by the 'you know which family I'm talking about' hahahaha
vote for PAP, don't vote for PAP, it's still PAP so what's the point? everyone still live in fear so vote for PAP(smear). some more voting slips all got serial number. they know who u vote for so BEWARE haha.. anyway the workers all ugly one!
No more posts???
haha... mayb rockson kanna caught by Lao Lee imperial guard liaoz... now having interrogation session.
rockson shall be taken outside the elite forbidden city and then executed at noon.
long live the lee dynasty!
hey..rockson..where are you? dont tell me you got killed by the government lackeys..?
Emperor Lee dun wan rockson head, he only wan his horse.... poor rockson......
his horse is now in the eastern chambers inside a vinegar jar, next to all the officials and eunuchs. those who serve the emperor got no horse liao, lets see how long the dynasty last. hahahaha!
You gonna update soon, man?
Rockson, u really get caught by Lee's imperial guard ah? if yes let me know man i'll gather up all the Tian Di Hui member and cheong inside Lee palace to save you.
and whack his cheebye bin
tian di hui got overthrow the emperor & dynasty meh? i tot its sun yat sen?
updates! i want to hear what u have to say about durai tee gong about how much his salary was and also his lackeys playing taiji all saying i-don't-know.
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